Dungeons: Tips and Tricks for AC30

[RandomGuy]

General Tips:

- Blue mist on the floor equals bad guys. It’s usually best to watch for it so you don’t over-aggro.
- Minions = bad. they die too fast (one exception I’ll get to in a minute).
- Ranged is your friend for lower armor professions. The high damage of all mobs in the dungeon will kill you quite quickly if you engage within melee distance.
- Bring lots of Crowd Control (CC) in your party. The things in here that go bump in the night will make short work of you if they can get to you.
- Bait the Ascalonian Ranger’s traps. They open with them and they will immobilize you.

Ascalonian Lieutenant:

- Staff for support for guardians on Ascalonian Lieutenant will make your party members love you. (Greatsword to start things off with the adds)
- Stuns and immobilization are key in this boss fight.
- Warrior – Throw Bolas/Pin down (preferably both if you have two warriors)
- Warriors: Rifle Butt and Bulls Charge WILL daze the boss.
- Due to the close quarters of this fight, Elementalists are advised to stay away from staff. Dagger/Dagger or some such is much better suited.
- Water and Earth attunements are king in this fight.

Master Ranger Nente:

- Nente cannot be dazed.
- Knock-down doesn’t work here
- Immobilize is good
- Knock-back doesn’t work either
- Lastly, fear works

Kasha Blackblood:

- Kasha Blackblood has a boulder on the right of the room, it is used for a nearby pressure plate. This opens a shortcut to Relena and Vassar.
- Kasha doesn’t move, you cannot pull or chain her; immobilize is pointless.
- Make sure you control her minions so they don’t overwhelm you.
- Bringing minion skills to counter her minions is a good way to keep them in check. (this is the exception to what was said above)
- Arcing arrow on warrior is best saved for minion spawns.
- Elementalists – offhand dagger to kill minion

Relena and Vassar:

- The bosses will each aggro a party member. The way to tell who it is is by the blue circle on the ground. If the leading edge follows you, you’ve got aggo.
- For the two people with aggro it is your responsibility to move to opposite sides of the room to break the bosses apart.
- If at all possible, to not close to melee distance with Vassar for any extended point in time.
- Relena has a nasty slowing AoE attack that does significant damage and keeps you from pulling her away.
- It is recommended to kite Vassar around the room while the party focuses on Relena first.

King Adelbern:

- Foefire hurts and there’s no warning before he uses it.
- The king has a large area AoE pull that he will use right before the foefire to grab as many party members into the AoE as possible. Save your dodge rolls for this if possible.
- He doesn’t move much, but you can still CC him with stuns, confusion, fear, etc… This will interrupt his skills.
- Skills that give the party stability are a HUGE plus. These are skills like, Hallowed Ground and “Stand Your Ground!”. Personal stability skills are also great like, Balanced Stance, Avatar of Melandru, and Mantra of Concentration.

[Valky]

Inteleg ca articolul este preluat. Interesant. Si dezamagitor pentru mine. Vad ca autorul a abordat problemele exact ca pe sinteza tacticii unui raid in WoW, unde trebuia sa faci o facultate ca sa dai jos cativa bossi intr-un raid nou. "For the two people with aggro it is your responsibility to move to opposite sides of the room to break the bosses apart.". No shit?? De unde a scos-o pe asta? Parca era random aggro? Facem kiting? Avem deja regulament de tactica la bossi? Incepem sa cerem oamenilor sa se uite pe youtube dupa tactica la boss si-i testam sa vedem daca stiu cum faceam in WoW sau nu-i lasam sa intre in raid? Suna... urat.
Besides, daca lumea incepe sa intrevada pentru fiecare boss diferente clare intre clase gen (tu stai departe ca esti cu HP mic, lasa ca tankez eu, si nu purta sabie, poarta arc ca sa completam bastonul iepurasului, la faza X toata lumea face CC cu ce poate, nu alte skill-uri, tu spameaza heal si te ocupi de revives) inseamna ca ne intoarcem oarecum la holly shit trinity si la yoc placere de joc, ceea ce ar fi o mare prostie in opinia mea. Sper sa fie doar parerea lui despre optimizarea unui fight, nu si cerinta jocului, ca sunt uber-satul de invatat tomuri de tactici despre 1001 bossi, de participat si condus raiduri, de distribuit loot cu dkp si de facut selectia oamenilor dupa cate cursuri de tactica de raiding au luat. Vreau sa ma mai si distrez, am invatat destula carte pentru gaming.

[Tudy]

Și GW2 are aggro - nu e random, dar nici nu se bazează pe threat mechanic, ci pe proximity.

[Markus Clouser]

Mișto ghid, mersi. Tu l-ai făcut? Dacă nu, ai o sursă ceva?

Valky scrie:

tu stai departe ca esti cu HP mic, lasa ca tankez eu, si nu purta sabie, poarta arc ca sa completam bastonul iepurasului, la faza X toata lumea face CC cu ce poate, nu alte skill-uri, tu spameaza heal si te ocupi de revives

Stiu ce zici, dar părerea mea e că aici ai descris perfect un The Deep din GW1, doar că la mesmeri orice melee weapon era bun..oricum. Mie imi plac tacticile astea comparativ cu "na arma și dansează în jurul lui până pică".

[RandomGuy]

http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/dungeon ... icks-ac30/

Eu personal nu am facut nici un dungeon din acest motiv nu am postat un guide personal. Valky sunt doar cateva guidelines ca sa stii in mare parte ce poti folosi pe un boss si ce nu.

[Alex.V]

In story mode nu e nevoie de indicatii, adica chiar daca este un party care nu a mai intrat acolo deloc dar playerii au un minimum de activitate cerebrala va fi ok.La explorable insa...nu vad sa reuseasca cineva fara un grup "gandit" bine.
Valky inteleg punctul tau de vedere dar sincer ai prefera sa poti face faceroll prin toate dungeonurile?




ress thread fara pic de rusine

[cosmin]

nu poti sa intri cu oricine in instanca pentru simplu motiv ca desi omu ala credca are 2 neuroni , poate dorm amandoi fix in acel moment si numa iti faci nervi. De exemplu am fost ieri cu un prieten si 3 random in story mode AC si o fost GROAZNIC , de la inceput le-am spus sa dea heal la cine ii downed si sa nu stea langa mobi daca ii range dmg sau dinastea, da pe ei io durut fix in p... de ce ziceam si ca urmare cand am ajuns cu chiu cu vai la aia 2 bosi care se iubesc o iesit toti cand o vazut cum mor ca retarzii. Mai pe scurt am pierdut o ora degeaba si am dat peste 10 silver numa pe reparatii degeaba.